Mystery Discus diease!!!

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Discuss all topics related to freshwater and planted tanks.


yasherkoach
 
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by yasherkoach

I agree with Alasse...the good bacteria is mainly in the gravel and/or filter media

100% water change will not affect this unless the gravel is completely dried out or the filter media is thrown out

*shakes head & smiles*


Holidays
 
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by Holidays

Boy you're a joke, Google 100 percent water change and find out what kind of fishkeeper you are what you do to your fish!

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&b ... 7a95ae86c4


http://philip.greenspun.com/aquarium/maintenance:

"If you were then to perform a 100 percent water change, the fish would be subjected to a shocking pH change from 7 up to 9.5. The "10 percent per day" plan avoids these sudden shocks"


http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/saltw ... hange.html


"uhh.....i'm pretty sure you should never....EVER....do a 100% water change. You would essentially be flushing all the bacteria you've been culturing during your cycle. Most people only do a 15-25% water change depending on the size of the tank and the levels of nitrates."

"I agree with Naeusu. An 100% water change could very well make your tank go into a mini cycle since you would be removing alot of the benefically bacteria. I think a 10-15% water change for a tank that has just finished cycling would be sufficent."

"Hello TreyGiles,

I've never heard of anyone doing a 100% water change after cycling for fresh water or salt tanks. I don't have experience with salt tanks but it doesn't sound like a very good idea. I have to agree with the above posters.

I hope you can share some photos with us.
Ken"

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 009AAoXfLs

"That is the longest wrong answer I ever read. LOL
Large water changes are perfectly safe if done correctly, but not a 100% water change. 75% is large enough and safe enough if done correctly.
To do a very large change you must match the water parameters first. Match the temperature, and the PH levels of your change water to your tanks water. leaving the new water out overnite with a heater and an airstone usually accomplishes this."


LOL and smiles


Alasse
 
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by Alasse

Actually YOU are the joke *LOL* Sooo now i know, you have no clue *LMAO*

There is very little if any beneficial bacteria in the water column, it is all in the gravel and filter, providing both are kept damp, then you lose nothing

I know what type of fishkeeper i am, an experienced one. My fish are healthy, breeding and i have rapidly growing fry *L*


Holidays
 
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by Holidays

YOU are the joke, you got no reference, you have no clue what a 100% water change means, neh you are not experience. LOL


Alasse
 
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by Alasse

Oh because it sooooo easy to run around the net and grab a link *L* I dont need to have other to support what i am saying, it is the truth

*LOL* Ya cant debate with an idiot, and i am not gona start now


Alasse
 
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by Alasse

Just to show i can use google too lol

http://guppyplace.tripod.com/Fry.html
[quote] Some guppy breeders do up to 100% water change will no ill effects[/quote]

http://angelfishgardens.com/page2.html
[quote]During the first 3 weeks, fry tanks receive 90-100 per cent water changes daily.[/quote]

http://www.aquaria.info/index.php?name= ... me=Printer
[quote] I change 100% of my fry’s water starting at week one. We have a 90% survival rate. Anyone who tells me I am wrong, then obviously you have not tried this. I simply fill up my containers with treated water. Get my fry out of their tank, clean the tank, and put the new water in and put the fry back in. Of course the water is treated. My fry grow at a faster rate than normal, fastest growing fry reaching an inch by the end of month 1.[/quote]

Thanx for reading, back to normal channels now *L*


Holidays
 
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by Holidays

Exactly growing tanks!! The need for the 100% water change is due to the fact that you have many juvenile fish (less than 2") in a small tank and you are feeding them 10 times a day.

Unless the water is contaminated you don't change 100% when the discus is sick.

If the water is contaminated then you won't keep any of it even in the filter or gravels.


Alasse
 
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by Alasse

I dunno why i bother trying to explain the concept to you....i must be bored *L*

*LOL* those examples are fry tanks.... others do it on other tanks also with no ill effects. Overstocked tank are an example (and i dont mean fry)

If the water is full of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate, too much for your BB to control, you do a 100% WC, cleaning the filter or gravel is defiantely something you do not do, especially if you are wanting to stock it back the same

If i want to start up a new tank, i take the spare filter i have running (full of bb) and i use some gravel from a running tank (full of bb) putting these into the new tank will prettymuch give me an instantly cycled tank. The water has nothing to do with the equation..

Now if you cant get it now, you never will. so regardless this will be my last stand on the whole thing

Enjoy ya day


Holidays
 
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by Holidays

You don't know what 100% water change means and you'll never do. All those example that you that you learned is grow tank, BARE BOTTOM! no gravel! what you're saying IS NOT 100% water change.

enjoy yours too :)


Holidays
 
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by Holidays

100% water changes is for fry tank, a rather smaller tank, where the fish rapid growth and a lot of feeding will always surpass the bacteria growth to sustain low level of ammonia and nitrites.

At this point you don't really care about bacteria breaking down waste and uneaten food, you're going to remove the ammonia and nitrites by changing the water 100%. NO GRAVELS, having gravels are pointless where the waste and uneaten food will settle and hold the ammonia and nitrite that you wanted to remove by changing the water 100%. What now you're going to argue and you can vacuum it super clean? 100% clean?

It is not for show tank with gravel and half of the discus are sick and half are healthy, try to understand what you’re doing to your fish when reading stuff on the internet.

Mystery Discus diease!!!

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