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 NessFish


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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:36 pm GMT   Reply      

I have a 43 Gallon Freshwater tank and a 10 Galleon Tank as well which has been cycling for about a week.

Here is my question...

I have two Blood ParrortFish in the 43 Gallon Tank. An orange and a blue one. The Orange one I have had the longest and when I added the blue one I noticed he was aggressive with the other fish in my tank. I want to move him to the 10 Gallon tank which have no other fish but it is slightly a lil' cooler than the 43 Gallon as it has no heater. Is it ok to move him to the 10 Gallon Tank?

Thanks for any replies,
Ness



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:47 pm GMT   Reply      

Hello,

Well hes going from a 43 to a 10 gallon not a good idea maby for a littel while but i think u sould put a header in it he might get sick and how big is it? someone toled me to put the agressive in an other tank and then after like 3 days put that agressive fish back then he wont be so agressive, hell be a new fish again. if i where u id put a header in it., and dont leave him in ther long



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:30 pm GMT   Reply      

Thank you for your reply Milky. How big is the fish. Well he isn't very big at all...

This is a pic of him...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/djbabylove/Fishy/Fish43/IMG_2711.jpg



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:14 pm GMT   Reply      

Hi Ness,

You could also try leaving a powerhead in the 10 gallon, this will raise the temp a bit. What kind of temp difference are you looking at? And which fish was the blue bullying, the goldfish? Also, if both tanks have only been cycling one week, then the temp difference is not the only shock that the blue will be going through as you move him to the smaller tank.

Welcome to the forum by the way.



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:42 pm GMT   Reply      

I am in no way trying to be mean, but it seems kind of silly to be talking about this when they are practically giving away 10 gallon heaters. Is there any particular reason why you don't want to buy one like are there cold water fish in there currently?



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:01 pm GMT   Reply      

good point miami



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:11 pm GMT   Reply      

Replying to Miami...
Ummmmmm first off as I said in my first post I have NO fish in the 10 gallon tank. When I did have fish in there they were fine without a heater then I moved all of them in a 43 Gallon tank. I would have no problem buying a heater for a 10 gallon tank. I don't think it silly to be talking about it at all.

Replying to Spongebob...

Well living in Florida the water temperature isn't really much of a diffrence. The 43 gallon tank is at 75 F right now which is a pretty good temp for that size tank. I dont have a temp strip set up on the 10 Gallon but just by juding from the feel of it I would say it is about 70 F.

My Orange Blood Parrot and my Fantail are the ones he bully's the most. They use to hang out at the front of the tank but now everytime they try to move up there the Blue runs them away. I haven't seen any damage but I am just worried about what might happen. I actually hand feed them so they all get a fair amount of food and sometimes I have to push the Blue away. He just seems to have taken over the tank.



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:29 pm GMT   Reply      

Ness, I think what Miami implied is why subject your fish to the stress of a temp change, if you have access to a heater...



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:37 pm GMT   Reply      

I am sorry but I think he/she meant that I need to go out and buy one, which I have no problem doing. The heater I do have is in the 43 Gallon. I cannot move the heater out of the 43 Gallon into the 10 gallon just for one fish. In the beginning all I was asking was just in case I "needed" to move the Blue would it be ok. Miami also asked me if I had any fish in the 10 gallon and as I posted in my first post I had none and before giving advice he/she should really read the full question. I seriously don't think that just because I am a newbie with fish tanks my questions should be found silly.

Ness



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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:32 pm GMT   Reply      

I think it was a misunderstanding, I can assure you Miami is one of the most helpful people in this forum, as well as one of the most respectful. I think the tone of their post came out the wrong way for you, I can assure you they only have the best intentions for your fish. We are probably already used to each others tones in here, so I can see how it was misunderstood.

And by no means is your question silly, I don't think it was meant that way... I personally wouldn't move a fish into a tank with no heater, unless i was forced to due to an attack or something by another fish. But temperature swings open the fish up to infections and sickness... so you always run that risk.



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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:06 am GMT   Reply      

ok well just get a 10 g heater, put the blue one in and coupel of days put him back but get the heater first bc ya hell go into shock, and might get sick u dont want that . See how it goes i mean hes still tiny.



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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:07 pm GMT   Reply      

I am sorry Ness. I reread my post and I do beleive my tone came off wrong. I really do apologize. I just meant that the fish will probably be able to live in 70 degree water if you acclimate him slowly, but it would probably be more prudent to just buy a 10 gallon heater as they are only like 8-10 bucks. Again sorry for using the word silly as that was a poor choice of words. I also apologize for not remembering that you had no fish in the ten gallon. good luck.

Oh and thanks spongebob for saying that I was not trying to be rude.



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Post Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:47 pm GMT   Reply      

Hi Miami and Spongebob and other members,

I bought a 10 Gallon heater and acclimated him to the tank slowly. He didn't seem very healthy so I moved him back and his color came back quickly and he off course was still the aggressive fish. Today I bought an Aquarium Net Breeder.I want to keep him there for a week and see how things go. If he keeps up his aggressive ways I will just have to take him back to the fish store I use. Any advise is welcomed on this.

As far as what happened Miami... Tis ok, miscommunication is a big problem between humans. We all might as well be apes. Thank you for your advice.

Ness



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Post Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:27 pm GMT   Reply      

i don't think putting the fish in a net breeder is going to be of much help, fish by nature have a variance of attitudes, the fish that you have is just aggressive, that really is what it comes down to, his true nature is to be a bully and throw his weight around, fish are deff not like other pets that you can train and teach to behave through either positive or negative reinforcement, putting that fish in a net breeder is only going to stress it out. this is in no way meant to be a mean or rude post, just trying to tell you that from my experience in the past when you have a mean fish the best thing to do is separate him from the others, if that means taking him back to the pet store, by all means do this, and when picking out your fish in the future, watch the fish for awhile before deciding, if you see a fish that's getting bullied, or doing the bullying don't buy that fish. it is a key indicator of what is to come if you put that fish in your home tank. i will spend hours at a time in my lfs staring at a specific tank before deciding which fish will be right for my tank. this way i am able to get a glimpse into the fishes natural attitude and behaviors. i am also able to see if there is anything wrong with the fish i am choosing. this helps me to only add fish to my tank that will be a perfect fit for the others. the one thing you may want to try to keep in mind too is that sex is a big cause of aggression, put too many males of any one species with out enough females and you will have a loss eventually. too many females with out males i have seen this go the same way. the problem with blood parrots is that they are a man made species, a genetic experiment. not something i personally care for, however that's not to say i don't think they are by any means not a cool fish. am a more natural type of person when it comes to my pets. i refuse to buy genetically altered fish, and fish that have been "painted" it's like tattooed gouramis or painted parrots. but that's my choice. any ways back to the topic,

if you want to buy a fish that is not as aggressive as the one you have the best bet is to watch the fish before you buy it. don't make a rash hasty buy just because of coloration or the idea that it will look neat, be sure to do your homework and you can't go wrong.
hope some of this helps.
Brandon



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Post Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:03 am GMT   Reply      

Well I didn't make a hasty decision when buying this Blood Parrot. The fact that I have another(different color) that wasn't aggressive at all made me make this decision. I am a member of a blood parrot forum and I was told by many people that they were not aggressive. I did my research and also watched the fish at the shop I buy from and he was fine. When I put him in the tank he was fine the first week then he went nuts! So yes I did all the checking. I will most likely be taking him back. Thanx for the input.


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