ok so i just added 2 small ryukins to my goldfish tank one of them has two small whit blotches on it one on its tail one on its body, from what i have read i am thinking that it is fungus. if so will salt cure this i would like to stay away from the medications if i can ind if the salt will do it how much should i add?
should have listened to all the books and magazines ...and quarantined huh
Ick is one of the most common parasites that fish can get and it has a very distinctive look to it. It looks like little white whitehead pimples and can be on any part of the body. Fungus looks like fussy patches of white stuff. Ick can be treated by raising the temp to say 85 to 90 degrees (depending on the fish) and treating with formalin blue, or Ick medication avaliable at any fish store. You have to treat for a few days after the spots are gone because it's actually the ick organism in it's free swimming form that can be killed and you need to kill all of these. Remove any charcoal during the duration of treatment. Fungus is potentially harder to get rid of. Check out www.plantgeek.com for remedies. Good luck!
its not ich i have seen that before and it is only 2 little blotches to tell you the truth it almost looks like a pimple... but like i said it is only 2 spots i thought ich was all over that body
Sorry I directed you to a plant site. Well, I don't know. Sometimes ick only shows up with a few spots at first. I've heard ick can be in the gills of the fish. If it were on the lip of the fish I would say it was fungus. I don't think I can help you unless I saw it myself. If it gets worse you'll probably figure out whether or not for sure it's ick, and you can go to the store and get what you need. Good luck.
we shall see what what becomes of this... but back to the salt question. i have herd 1 table spoon for every 5 gallons... is this correct? and do i really have to buy that "aquarium" salt....at my home for me i use natural un-iodized sea salt you think that would work
and to respond to the water temp question.... i have a cold water tank. lost my heater awhile back.
No you don't have to spend on fancy aquarium salt. As long as it's not iodised and doesnt have any other ingredients in it, and I believe you're right about the amount. The purpose of heating up the water for ick is to speed up the ick organism's life cycle, to get it to it's free swimming form so it can be killed. With cold water treatment will just take a few days longer (if you have ick). If it's fungus it will look fuzzy.
well i salted my tank.......and didnt seem to help now what i thought was fungus seems to look like ulcers and the affected fish has one his stomach, what is the best way to treat this, or is there any?
I'm not a total expert on this. From my experience fungus looks like fuzzy stuff. Ulcers sound like a result of poor water quality to me. Maybe the new fish were injured a little during transport or somehow, and these injuries allowed infection to set in. The other fish's skin is probably intact enough to ward off infections in their skins. I would take some of your water and have it checked out at the aquarium store. If there are elevated levels of waste products you can take care of that with frequent water changes, add dechlorinator to the new water, change the filter material or if it's intact rinse it in dechlorinated water to retain any beneficial bacteria and reuse it, add new charcoal and add Cycle, a product made of beneficial bacteria. An alternative to adding charcoal, and others may have more knowledgeable opinions on this, would be to remove the charcoal and use a product called Melafix. It's made out of tea-tree oil and is a natural disinfectant. So, feed less, check the water, and ask the aquarium store. They may have books with pictures and can identify exactly what your fish have. I'm not an expert on antibiotics or fugicides for fish, but if you go this route you will probably have to add a buch of benneficial bacteria during and/or after treatment to restart the cycle. Ask about temperature too. Maybe warmer water would be better and you could buy a cheap heater. The stores in my area often reccomend increacing the tempurature to combat infections, though I don't remember other than with ick how or why. I have a lot of experience with aquariums, but I don't know everything. Try to get some experienced advice from a reputable aquarium store, or if you don't have one near by I would try to research it on the internet. Good luck.
the salt may have irritated the fishes skin! that may be what the ulcers are! i would go and get sometreatments that can be mixed! i use mycopur and bactopur! one is a fungus treatment and the other is for bacteria! if you use half the amount of the antifungus and the full strength antibacterial and the use the full strength fungus on the second day, repeat day one on day 3. and then on day 5 put in your carbon filters and do a 30/40% water change! i use both as most fungal infections open up to bacteria and if is is bacteria then the anti fungus isn't going to hurt!
if it's on the tail and red... it might be ulcers... i remember doing a write up on treating it... i think it's still up on goldfishparadise...
Ulcer Disease/Aeromonas/Furunculosis
Symptoms:Open sores, usually start as pimple looking boils and rapidly progress into full blown open sores.
Causes: Generally if you have ulcers showing up you have flukes or another parasitic infestation that is opening up the skin to the Aeromonas bacteria. Furunculosis stems from an internal bacterial problem.
Treatment: Requires antibiotics to get better. Medicated food is best as it helps fight the bacteria from the inside out. Topical treatments to help with the external sores are a ONE TIME (more than once will continue to open up the wound and prevent healing) swab of peroxide (let it bubble for at least 10 seconds). DO NOT get peroxide into eyes, gills, or mouth as it will do tissue damage in those areas. After 10 seconds of bubbling the wound can be gently patted dry and a light swab of neosporin applied.
Peroxide should only be done once but neosporin swabs can be done daily.
Note: You must treat with antibiotics concurrently with any external treatments for success. This is a disease that works from inside the fish and must be treated in accordance to that.
here's the write up for fungus... i would investigate to see if it's either one... the treatment is way different for either one...
Fungus Disease
The following Disease Factfile is brought to you by: FantailFishyUK
Symptoms: Fish show fluffy tufts of cotton wool like growths on any part of the body
Causes: Fish defences lowered by stress/poor conditions allow the Pseudomonas (always present in aquarium water) bacteria to take a hold
Treatments: Interpet number 8: 'Anti Fungus & Finrot', King British number 6: 'Finrot & Fungus control', Aquarium Pharmaceuticals 'Melafix' (to treat MOUTH fungus), Waterlife 'Myxazin', Waterlife Protozin.
Epistylis fungus responds to a 0.3% salt solution.
see also: Flexibacter Columnaris, a bacterial infection with similar symptoms.
batopur is the same sort of thing as the fin rot and fungus stuff! only cause you have the added antifungus in the mycopur is it very affective! and only needs treatment on day 1 and 3 with the bactopur and while you do this treat with half measure mycopur on days 1 and 3 and full dose on day 2. replace carbon filters on day 4 and it should ahve cleared up!
