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 littlej2455


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Post Thu May 15, 2008 12:09 am GMT   Reply      

I just got a 125 gallon aquarium. I want to get a banded bamboo shark and a couple of other fish. i would love to get a sting ray in their too, but I do not know which kind to get. Can you help me fins the right ray to put in that tank? I am thinking in a couple of years of putting all of these fish in a larger tank, but for right now it is 125. Thanks!



 Snowboss


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Post Thu May 15, 2008 6:27 pm GMT   Reply      

I wanted to set up a ray tank a while back and after A LOT of reading.....i kinda shyed away from it.........rays need an immense amount of room to swim around in....very little if any rock or decor....sharks are about the same......the biggest thing that turned me off of rays was that they don't ship wel at all and need very fine substrate......being that they have a lot of skin area they tend to be suseptable to infections from the smallest of scratches..............they are hard to feed and can get rather large....small ones will reack 1 1/2 to 2 feet at maturity..............I'm not trying to scare you off ....i just want to pass on what little info I have on them .....good luck


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Post Thu May 15, 2008 9:31 pm GMT   Reply      

Like Boss said 125gallon for rays is too small. It would be good for a little while but not long. For the price of them you don't want to put them in a tank that they will outgrow quickly.



 littlej2455


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Post Thu May 15, 2008 11:45 pm GMT   Reply      

thanks guys. I guess I will just stick with the sharks. Do you know of any good tank mates for the banded sharks?



 schigara


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Post Fri May 16, 2008 9:33 am GMT   Reply      

Please read the post below from reef central about keeping these sharks. Your tank may be big enough for a Banded Shark as a juvenile but definitely not once it's medium to full grown.

Most people who successfully keep these sharks long term, keep them in a minimum 8 foot long tank considering they grow to about 4 feet in length!

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=541a19376ce5afd59d2687935a9820de&threadid=1357666



 Deltasigpony


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Post Fri May 16, 2008 11:17 am GMT   Reply      

dude that 1700gal tank that guy built in his basement is fing sweet...i know know what i am going to put in my basement, maybe with some surround sound speakers and some nice lighting aand a nice rap around couch i...i wonder if you could make one with two windows... maybe make it a giant reef tank lol how cool would that be



 Serial32


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Post Fri May 16, 2008 12:39 pm GMT   Reply      

It's possible to have all sides clear but your getting into an expensive project. This is why he only used 1 side for viewing. This is thousands of pounds of pressure we're talkin about so it would have to be pretty thick glass which comes at a pretty penny.
Also a project like this is nothing to rush into. Take your time, do the math, and research and you will be happy-go-lucky in the end. Rush it and you will end up spending a lot more money in the end and will take twice as long.

A giant reef tank would be very cool and with that size the possibilities are endless!



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Post Fri May 16, 2008 2:03 pm GMT   Reply      

not to mention a tank failure at the 1700 gallon mark could be structurally detrimental to a house..............I'm in the planning stages of a 480 gallon custome tank and it's figureing in at 7200 lbs {thats tank, rock, water and substrate.........things like concreate thickness of the floor need to be taken into concideration .........I'm going to pour that end of my basement 8 inches thick.....and thats just to set the tank on ........the outward pressures of the tank itself are bad enough................ 1000's of lbs



 Deltasigpony


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Post Fri May 16, 2008 7:30 pm GMT   Reply      

well im just saying when i buy a house in 2 to 3 years im sure ill have it planed to a t or not do it all im not going to jump into i want like 4 years experience before i do something like that...imagine the cost of the live rock



 Snowboss


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Post Sat May 17, 2008 6:43 am GMT   Reply      

wow that aint no joke - -I'm looking at 5000- 6500 for the live rock in my 480 gallon..........at 2 lbs per gallon in a 1700 you'd be in the 27,000 dollar range HOLY CRAP BATMAN !!!! lol just for rock

needless tosay I won't be adding my rock all at once ....lol...........



 Serial32


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Post Sat May 17, 2008 11:48 am GMT   Reply      

Dude the ocean has live rock for free. Just bring a snorkel and a truck, your all set. Or I'm sure you can make a deal with a company for a large amount like that.



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Post Sat May 17, 2008 4:18 pm GMT   Reply      

it would be really cool if i could gather enough live rock from the ocean .......talk about all natural....lol............I wonder if there are laws about collecting rock ...........where would be the closest rock to me, in NY state.......I mean, you don't see live rock from Massachusettes being sold or anything like that .....and fuel to drive to the Carabean would be nuts....lol



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Post Sat May 17, 2008 5:05 pm GMT   Reply      

ou could fly down and rent a u haul and load it up and just expect the die off lol or i have heard of ppl making their own live rock out of cement and it become live but the quality is not as good because of the porousness...im still gunna do it i will take a whole reef to make it... imagine trying ti fill it with coarl, fish and inverts and the cost of one water change lol a 170 gal water change per week



 somalia123


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Post Sun May 18, 2008 12:03 am GMT   Reply      

in florida its illegal to take live rock out of the ocean



 Snowboss


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Post Sun May 18, 2008 2:16 pm GMT   Reply      

good to know somalia.....im sure it's illegal in a lot of areas ...or we would all be making beach trips every weekend and not spending 10 bucks a lb at the lfs


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