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 Gldntrmite

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Post Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:40 am GMT   Reply      

 

Both my Hammer and Torch died this week.... Everything else in the tank is doing great. Anyone have any ideas what would cause these two to perish so quickly? All levels and temps are fine...



 blueshoes2208

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Post Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:12 pm GMT   Reply      

 

were they close to each other in the tank?



 Gldntrmite

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Post Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:09 pm GMT   Reply      

 

Nope, good 2 feet of distance between them with the hammer close to the sand bed and the torch up top closer to the surface. 200 gallon tank and they had co-existed for a good 4 months and we're doing great. Each had almost doubled in size and neither was in contact with another coral.

I've got or should say had: Torch / Hammer / Fox / mushrooms / ricordea / trumpets / lobopylia / frogspawn / Zoanthids / anthelia / plate coral / finger leather and yellow polyps... none had been added in the last 30 days so no real changes in terms of additions to the tank.

I did swap out my sump however used all the old filter media as to not shock anything. Torch started looking different the week before the sump swap and the Hammer a few days after however i really don't think the sump swap would have that big of effect. I literally only swapped out the sump tank all the existing filter / skimmer / pumps stayed.



 fihsboy

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Post Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:09 pm GMT   Reply      

 

did you add any air fresheners in your house? Or spray lysol in your house? That will kill those lps faster then anything



 lionlord

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Post Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:44 pm GMT   Reply      

 

did thay start to tern brown and slimy. if thay did it is comen for lps's to git it it is a fungel infection. iv had it happen alot to mine



 Gldntrmite

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Post Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:30 am GMT   Reply      

 

No air freshners anywhere around them.

They didn't change color, just didn't open up and gradually starting shrinking and then lost the tentacles. All i have is the dead skeleton remaining.



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Post Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:31 am GMT   Reply      

 

That and every other coral i have in the tank is doing great. Just these two and seemed strange that both perished at the same time.



 fihsboy

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Post Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:21 pm GMT   Reply      

 

It could be a form of STN.



 gumbii

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Post Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:08 am GMT   Reply      

 

what kind of fish do you have...? sounds like a hungry flame angel...

there is absoloutly no reason for them to just die out like that... something is either munching on them, or it's starving off...


do you feed them...? LPS has to eat... maybe you are lacking nutrients... lps love dirty water...



 puffedupseagull

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Post Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:34 am GMT   Reply      

 

polyp bailout in corals in general is caused by a sudden change to a physical parameter in the water... most often luminary shock. If you have recently upgraded the lights, replaced overdue old lamps, added carbon after a long absence or did a huge water change (either suddenly increases water clarity and light penetration)... then you might have your answer. Or... a sudden influx of a lot of freshwater from long overdue evap. top off can do it as well. If none of the above, I'll guess that you were feeding the coral food that was too large (bigger than brine shrimp or 1/4") or you just weren't feeding it enough at all (2-5 times weekly minimum... daily needed by some). Most corals can hang in for 12-18 months before polyp bailout before they starve to death. Do consider the above. If feeding is the issue... use anything but brine shrimp which is complete trash and a waste of money. Frozen adult brine kills fishes and corals by letting you believe that they are getting nutrition out of the lousy 4% protein therein (gold fish food has more nutrition!!!). Instead... look at frozen Mysis shrimp...69% protein. That's real food for zooplankton feeding fishes and corals. Best regards



 blueshoes2208

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Post Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:34 pm GMT   Reply      

 

yeah my fish like mysis like 100x better, i still balance it out though between a few other foods, still mind boggling how things like that can occur though, ive done lots of crazy things to my tank and its survived pretty much all of it. I occassionally spot feed my corals with phytochrom, is that sufficient for my corals? xenia, polyps, ricordea, hammer, some of those im leary about but im not 100% sure what to feed them



 newbie916

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Post Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:38 pm GMT   Reply      

 

I've been feeding my tank a wide range of food and they've been doing increasingly well.

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Combination of Mysis, Krill, and Spirlina enriched flake food

LPS and softees: Torches, Acans, Frogspawn, zoas, paly's, toadstool, candy canes, trumpets, ricordia's, clams, feather duster, coco worm, GSP, Xenia, etc.

The LPS get daily pieces of Krill, Mysis, and Silversides. (Hand feed every mouth, which is alot of work) Takes me longer to feed my corals than to feed my kids...lol

I then mix a combination of Reef Nutrition Phytofeast, Arctipods, and Oyster feast and do half of it in the morning and the other half at night.

Since I started the Oyster feast two months ago..All of my LPS and polyps have colored up very nicely and are multiplying like crazy. My Frogspawn started off with 20 heads a year ago and now it has over 60 and is the size of a large cantelope. The Acan's were 40 heads and now are in the 60's and the nuclear green trumpets started with 40 head and are now 60. Ricordia Yuma's started with one head three months ago and now has split into 4. All of the zoas are taking over my rocks. Virtually, everything is growing at a mad pace, but I also do weekly 10-20% water changes because I want to make sure I keep my water quality up. I need to learn how to frag:)

I definitley recommend Oyster Feast!!!

Chris



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Post Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:15 pm GMT   Reply      

 

holy cow, i didnt even know lps had mouths........ ok everyone has one of these but i ALWAYS forget the name, its either an sps or an lps, looks kind of like a moss covered flourescent green tree stump that grows, very common, what do i feed it? I see no mouths



 newbie916

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Post Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:31 pm GMT   Reply      

 

If it's Green Star Polyps, then they are mostly photosynthetic. However, I believe they benefit from the phytofeast.



 angus

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Post Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:23 am GMT   Reply      

 

check your tank for fire worms....... they eat corals


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