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 Sumthing_Fishy


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:06 am GMT   Reply      

Well some aren't too happy with the 2 new members in the tank.

I finally got a pair of oscars, one albino and the other tiger. They love the 30 gallon tank, no snails whatsoever, graduated from cichlid pellets and have moved on to their favorites, fish!

The lightening was a little off so pic might be a little hazy, but I caught the oscars getting them about a 3 a.m. snack. The albino has a guppy, and the tiger has a platy. I at first and still feel a little sorry for them, but the platies and guppies did the same thing to the other little platies, guppies and mollies that were only about a month or so old just because they were bigger. Now the happy little fellas are on the run and constantly dodging the 2 oscars. The tank is almost clear of orange fish now, do oscars and cichlids or oscars and loaches get along well?

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 a1k8t3


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:08 am GMT   Reply      

are you going to mo them to the bigger tank eventully?



 Sumthing_Fishy


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:57 am GMT   Reply      

Hope not. Surely the 2 oscars can handle the 30 gallon. If they do get too big, might have to get a 55. I wouldn't have a single fish left in the 125 if I put them in there.



 miami754


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:57 am GMT   Reply      

Those oscars will outgrow that 30 gallon in no time. Even a 55 is small for two full grown oscars. I would definitely anticipate getting a bigger tank for them in the near future.

Oh and just for your personal knowledge - oscars actually are cichlids.



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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:03 pm GMT   Reply      

you didnt research them to well now did ya? oscars can get up to 18" far to large for you 30 gal or a 55 gal



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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:40 pm GMT   Reply      

I had a weird dream about huge fish tanks last night! There was like this old aisian guy with grey hair and he had these tanks that were like 3 feet wide and 6-7 feet long. That's what I'm gona need for my fish pretty soon.



 Sumthing_Fishy


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:51 pm GMT   Reply      

I know oscars are cichlids, but do they get along with the cichlids that do not get as big as they do, like will they try to eat other cichlids because they are bigger than them?



 miami754


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:49 pm GMT   Reply      

What kind of other cichlids are you talking about - mbunas, haps, peacocks, south american, central american, specific species.

In general the answer is no. They cannot be mixed with Africans because they require very different water parameters. Plus, it is not good for Africans to eat a great deal of meaty foods. It will be impossible for you to prevent them from doing so, however, because oscars do need meaty foods and they are very messy eaters. Not only that, but in general the oscar will eat anything that is too small and if the African is too big, they are much faster and more agile and will probably kill your oscar. I have heard of numerous people who attempted this and the Africans tormented the oscars.

If I were you, I would concentrate on just the oscars. They literally need 60-70 gallons per fish so I don't see a point of putting them with anything unless you are willing to purchase a MUCH bigger tank.

Anyway, that is my opinion and what I have heard from research. I have never personally mixed the two because I do not believe it is fair to the fish to mix species that have such very different water requirements, but maybe someone on here has tried it and can give you a personal report.



 Sumthing_Fishy


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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:22 pm GMT   Reply      

I want 1 red if not yellow parrot cichlid. Their pH is 6.5-7.0, which my tank is already in that range and it says that they are peaceful so was wondering about the oscars with them?



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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:54 pm GMT   Reply      

No, I don't think that will work at all. The parrot is not very aggressive and stays relatively small (when compared to an oscar). The oscar is aggressive (relative to the parrot cichlid) and big. I have a feeling the parrot would soon become a snack.

I read around on some forums to see if my hunch was correct and it seems it is. This mix is not generally a good one. There were several people who were able to do it if they were both the same size, but when the oscar started to outgrow the parrot - bye, bye parrot.



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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:52 pm GMT   Reply      

Well shoot! Maybe I can trade the oscars for some nicer fish. I was going for them because of the snail problem and to keep the platy population under control, but wanted more than 2 fish in that tank. I know... do you think the parrot cichlid would go well in the 125 gallon tank with freshwater community fish like tetras, silver dollars, mollies, platies, guppies, etc.? I like the look of the parrot and would like 2 if possible, a red and a yellow one.



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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:22 pm GMT   Reply      

Iv heard many different things about parrots and to be honest I think it depends on the individual fish. One of my parrots is shy and peaceful and the other is a monster that could hold its own even in a tank of agressive fish...So if you go with those dont be surprised if there are some problems with them. Aaaalso...Iv seen some that dont get larger than a few inches across and a few inches wide (they're roundish as you know) but I'v also seen them completely gigantic...my boyfriends mom has one that is freakishly huge and looks too huge for even a 70ish gal tank.



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Post Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:29 pm GMT   Reply      

Yeah, parrots are in general hard to predict. They are a man-made creation and as far as I know, people aren't even sure what was hybridized to create them (although we have some good guesses). As with all hybrids, you just don't know how they are going to act.



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Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:25 am GMT   Reply      

I still want to try one, i'll have a net standing by



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Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:33 am GMT   Reply      

i honestly think you need to figure what you will do with toes oscars... before you go grab a few more fish they will rapidly outgrow that 30 gallon of yours, another thing is i read in an article not to long ago that oscars tend to gourge themselves, so if there is food present, if they are hungary or not they will just eat, eat, eat, and eat, untill they just cant eat anymore, and this is extreamly unhealthy for them...


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