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Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:15 pm GMT Reply
My cat leaves my tank alone for the most part. We used to have a 55 gal in the living room and a footlong pleco that lived in it along with the goldfish. My min. schnauzer hated that fish... whenever the pleco would attatch himself to the glass on the font, the dog would go crazy. Dog snot and slobber all over the front of the tank. I think the pleco liked to tease him. Long after the tank was gone (moved the goldies outside and the pleco to my grandparents), we could look at the dog and say "look at the fish" and he would run to the spot where the pleco used to be and bark like mad until he realized the tank wasn't there anymore. Did that for years after.
silly animals
=)
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:28 pm GMT Reply
lol
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:41 am GMT Reply
PK & Snowboss --
It's damned refreshing to hear two good parents speak. I see and hear such crap each week. Like watching a slow, disastrous, train wreck and only being able to watch with the only question being "how many people will get hurt?".
(PK - I really do hope I didn't offend you. I lapse into debate and analysis reallyyyyy easy and I'm sometimes too much, or so I'm told, repeatedly. LOL)
Z
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:45 am GMT Reply
Spraky -
Funny you bring up your dog. This morning I realized that my Miniature Dachshund lays in front of my 20 gallon tank, puts his head down, and only his eyes move as he watches the fish swim around. Very soon, his eyes slowly close shut and he dozes right off. He is calmed by fish as much as we are!
This is truly remarkable because of his background, which I won't get into, but it's incredible to watch, if you know him. And it's a good thing. :)
Z
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:21 pm GMT Reply
well Z.............i will say it's nice to talk to a person who has one of them brain things in their head....LOL ..........very refreshing and never feel bad about saying something, if we disagree im sure we'll tell you as you would us.....AL
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:23 pm GMT Reply
My mini doxie stays away from my tank... she doen't like water. except to drink out of the pond in the backyard
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:50 pm GMT Reply
No-I'm-not-offended.....It-probably-wasn't-the-most-PC-way-to-describe-that-woman....Live-and-learn-I-guess!
My-cat-drinks-out-of-every-water-filled-container-she-finds.......Bathtub,-fishtank-etc....I-can't-leave-any-water-glasses-where-she'll-find-them-because-she-always-knocks-them-over-and-that-includes-buckets-that-have-a-small-amount-of-water-left-in-them.....I-think-she-was-a-racoon-in-her-last-life.
I'm-having-sooooo-much-trouble-getting-a-repiratory-job-and-I-don't-understand-why-it's-been-so-difficult.....I-have-a-few-hospitals-I'm-staying-in-touch-with-and-I-may-start-working-for-a-pond-servicing-buisness-as-well.....The-massage-buisness-is-burning-me-out....It's-mostly-gay-men-that-I-work-on-and-men-in-general-are-harder-to-work-on.....Their-energy-is-usually-very-static-and-much-less-satisfying-than-most-women-whose-energy-seems-to-flow.......It's-not-a-sexual-thing,-it's-energetic,-and-I-get-bored-when-I-don't-feel-a-body-become-more-and-more-relaxed-and-happy.
My-goal-is-to-be-employed-in-a-real-job-before-my-son-comes-out-for-the-summer-and-it's-not-looking-good...He's-comming-next-Monday.....I-know-we-can-play-with-our-extensive-N-scale-freight-train-layout,-go-boogie-boarding-at-the-beach,-and-go-biking-and-hiking,-but-I-wanted-to-be-able-to-take-him-to-Catalina-Island,-go-on-a-3-day-backpacking-trip-in-the-Sierras,-and-take-the-train-up-to-Pismo-beach-and-explore-the-sea-caves-by-cayak-and-that's-not-looking-very-promising-at-this-time.....I-hate-being-broke-when-he's-with-me....Grrrrrrrr!!!!.
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:03 pm GMT Reply
I-used-to-have-crayfish-crawl-out-of-my-tank-when-I-was-a-kid-and-I'd-find-them-on-the-other-side-of-the-house-all-covered-with-fuzz-and-dust-and-fending-off-all-3-cats-with-it's-claws-up.
My-stepfather-has-a-keyboard-for-me-so-I-just-have-to-go-pick-it-up......It'll-be-weird-learning-to-use-the-space-bar-again!
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:54 am GMT Reply
PK,
In regard to what you'd like to do with your son, it sounds like you want your son to feel special, have a memorable visit, and lots of quality time with you. You can do that without fancy trips, I assure you that it will be just as special and memorable for him. You're insightful and sensitive, and you have much to offer him. I'm sure you can figure this out.
I'll even give a hint, maybe just a different perspective. Catalina Island isn't special, it has nothing to do with *you*, you aren't sharing yourself with him. But sharing your trains with him, that's sharing yourself with him. And it doesn't really matter if you've done this a thousand times, you can make the 1001st time special. He will remember, and deeply love, his Dad, especially watching his Dad with his trains. Catalina Island?
Z
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:34 am GMT Reply
good point Z...........isn't it funny that my wife and I had a beautiful honeymoon in Niagra falls of all places ....I mean we went all out, hotel, tours, room service all the goodies for a week and we will remember it for the rest of our lives BUT more ofte than not, we think about and talk about the times we shared one can of soup cause we were so broke and how we counted our change and took bottles back to get a pack of smokes, almost more "special" than the thousands we spent on the wedding and honeymoon...because we did it together and got threw bad times as a team shareing of each other ........good times are good times, but struggles build us stronger ................as we look back on our childhoods we remember some vacations and some trips But more so the time "dad got hurt and the family was all there" or the time we didn't have food in the house and mom made a huge meal with some hamburger and a ton of pasta....things like that - - -didn't mean to get off subject .....lol but i guarentee PK your son will remember fixing a train locomotive or typeing on your silly keyboard over a trip to an island anyday, either way your miles ahead of the norm in todays society in parenting bud....Kudo's
Boss
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:39 pm GMT Reply
Yea-I-know......He-loves-playing-in-the-waves-boogie-boarding-too.......I-just-feel-less-of-what-I-could-be-if-I-was-earning-$300-$500-a-day-which-an-RT-can-earn........My-rent-check-is-going-to-bounce.....actually-I-need-to-call-the-manager-and-tell-him-to-hold-my-check-till-I-get-$300-more-into-the-bank......My-phone-will-be-turnd-off-by-the-21st-and-same-goes-for-electric,-car-insurance,-internet-axcess.
If-one-of-these-5-6-RT-positions-pans-out-within-the-next-few-days-I'll-have-the-ability-to-borrow-money-with-the-promise-of-payback-by-a-certian-date......Then-I'll-have-enough-for-gas,-food,-maybe-some-videos-and-whatnot.
Hopfully-there's-a-train-show-somwhere-so-we-can-pack-up-all-75-or-so-cars-and-6-or-7-working-locamotives-and-set-up-our-train-on-one-of-the-modular-layouts-that-have-main-lines-hundreds-of-feet-long......It's-fun-having-5-locos-puling-and-3-helpers-midway-down-the-train......The-N-scale-track-is-slightly-wider-than-1/2-inch-and-an-80-car-train-is-about-30-feet-or-more-long,-and-everything-is-very-well-prototyped-with-teenie-tiny-lettering-and-high-tech-geared-down-engines-with-flywheels-for-more-realistic-movement.
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:50 pm GMT Reply
lol @ the direction this thread went...
you're welcome...
so what do you guy's think about a gay couple raising some kids...? me and my sister adopted three of my nephews... and eventually i'm going to bring a man home... well... there's a 50% chance it will be a guy... lol...
well... i actually have a question... but let me start by saying, i really don't mind if one of the kids comes out gay, or anything like that... but the whole thing about they growing up in a house with a uncle with a boyfriend... hmm... that's kind of wierd... even I know that... so what do i do...? do i hide it from them for a couple of years, or just act totally straight around them... i'm allready very straight acting, but you know... uncle with a man...
what do i do...? or what do you guys think...? what about with the school stuff..?? bah... kjasdfljk;fdsajlkfdajkldfakljadsf;ljkdasf...
i shouldn't be stressing out about this stuff right now... my oldest is 3 years old...
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:09 pm GMT Reply
There have been numerous studies regarding the effects of gay parents on children. There is absolutely no evidence that those children are adversely affected. They are no less well-adjusted. If it were proven otherwise, gay people would not be allowed to adopt.
No, do not hide your lifestyle from the children. Young children have less of a "problem" with different kinds of relationships because they do not have as many prejudices and biases as we do. Their minds are open.
And they absolutely will NOT be more influenced to be gay. There is also zero proof that gay couples are more likely to have gay kids. People are born gay, they are not gay because of any other influences.
Zambize
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:12 pm GMT Reply
PK -
For a very special, and very deep, bonding experience, just sit down somewhere with your son and listen to him. Don't give advice, don't add your own "stories", don't correct him, bite your tongue. The more you do this the more he will share with you. It is a very powerful bonding experience.
Z
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Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:38 am GMT Reply
Thanks-Z
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